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	<title>Comments on: The Fine Line: Friendship vs. Emotional Affair</title>
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		<title>By: Sandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am 48yrs old and I have read alot to know my boyfriend is having a emotional affair with his exgirl.  They dated over 20 years ago which they had a son.  There was cheating done by both and used the son as weapon between each other.  About 2 years ago he had found his son on face book and started to talk to him.  But he mostly asked for money.  Then his mom (ex girlfriend) add him as well.  They have been talking in the begining not too much but recently alot.  He says I have a trust issue.  Yes maybe I do.  I know a emotional affair when I see one.  Recently they has been talking about his and mine relationship.. I have walked out a couple of time as he has changed.  I do get jealous as he does have alot of girls as friends.  He like to boot his ego.  He said that he will not stop talking to her.  It is his one and only family and not going to lose connection.  I don&#039;t care if he talks to her once in awhile but when you start talking from the heart it is an emotional affair.  He says he loves me but because he has 3 bad relationships with all the women leaving.  I don&#039;t think he knows how to love and enjoys the flirting todate from other women even tho he is in a commiment relationship.  I guess I will see how things goes.  I have posted on my wall the define of an emotional affair hopfully he gets it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 48yrs old and I have read alot to know my boyfriend is having a emotional affair with his exgirl.  They dated over 20 years ago which they had a son.  There was cheating done by both and used the son as weapon between each other.  About 2 years ago he had found his son on face book and started to talk to him.  But he mostly asked for money.  Then his mom (ex girlfriend) add him as well.  They have been talking in the begining not too much but recently alot.  He says I have a trust issue.  Yes maybe I do.  I know a emotional affair when I see one.  Recently they has been talking about his and mine relationship.. I have walked out a couple of time as he has changed.  I do get jealous as he does have alot of girls as friends.  He like to boot his ego.  He said that he will not stop talking to her.  It is his one and only family and not going to lose connection.  I don&#8217;t care if he talks to her once in awhile but when you start talking from the heart it is an emotional affair.  He says he loves me but because he has 3 bad relationships with all the women leaving.  I don&#8217;t think he knows how to love and enjoys the flirting todate from other women even tho he is in a commiment relationship.  I guess I will see how things goes.  I have posted on my wall the define of an emotional affair hopfully he gets it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 22:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw...stay strong and focused. It&#039;s not easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw&#8230;stay strong and focused. It&#8217;s not easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 15:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trisha,

Thanks. I really appreciate that. 

Jay</description>
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<p>Thanks. I really appreciate that. </p>
<p>Jay</p>
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		<title>By: Trisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 12:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, I just wanted to say Thank you for all your posts here and sharing your story.  I was ending an emotional affair and it is encouraging me to continue that.  Let&#039;s just say that &quot;he&quot; is not wanting it to end and I have remained strong (returning to God).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, I just wanted to say Thank you for all your posts here and sharing your story.  I was ending an emotional affair and it is encouraging me to continue that.  Let&#8217;s just say that &#8220;he&#8221; is not wanting it to end and I have remained strong (returning to God).</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 05:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shana,

I am so sorry you are going through this.  No matter the state of your marriage, you do not deserve this.  Your husband is in a state of confusion as I know you are too.  Do not be pulled into it.  See clearly.  Jay is right.  You need to set your boundries -- he can not coexist in two worlds.  He can not be married and committed to you and have this friendship that obvioul;y has crossed the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shana,</p>
<p>I am so sorry you are going through this.  No matter the state of your marriage, you do not deserve this.  Your husband is in a state of confusion as I know you are too.  Do not be pulled into it.  See clearly.  Jay is right.  You need to set your boundries &#8212; he can not coexist in two worlds.  He can not be married and committed to you and have this friendship that obvioul;y has crossed the line.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.sarahmarkley.com/2010/04/the-fine-line-friendship-vs-emotional-affair/comment-page-2/#comment-58276</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 02:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shana, I am so sorry you are going through this. He has no clue what&#039;s going on in his heart and head. He is convinced by a lie. 

At this point, he needs to be made uncomfortable. He needs to know what he is at risk of losing. If you want an idea about what to do, I recommend telling him to leave the house until he decides what he wants. If you consider it, I hope you do it under the care of a Christian counselor. 

I used to be exactly like your husband, and my heart grieves over the pain that you are in. There&#039;s hope, but you need to draw a line. You don&#039;t deserve this. 

God Bless You,

Jay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shana, I am so sorry you are going through this. He has no clue what&#8217;s going on in his heart and head. He is convinced by a lie. </p>
<p>At this point, he needs to be made uncomfortable. He needs to know what he is at risk of losing. If you want an idea about what to do, I recommend telling him to leave the house until he decides what he wants. If you consider it, I hope you do it under the care of a Christian counselor. </p>
<p>I used to be exactly like your husband, and my heart grieves over the pain that you are in. There&#8217;s hope, but you need to draw a line. You don&#8217;t deserve this. </p>
<p>God Bless You,</p>
<p>Jay</p>
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		<title>By: Shana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am struggling with the fact that my husband is having an emotional affair with a co worker. We&#039;ve been going through some really bad times and he asked for a divorce. A few days later he tells me he is in love with another woman yet asks me to stay. The very next day he tells this friend he loves her and the day after that tells me he&#039;d rather be with her, just to again change his mind about 2 more days later after I talked about working things out. Its confusing to me too. My thing is is that he refuses to even consider ending their relationship. He flat out told me not to ask him to give that up because he wouldn&#039;t. that he loves me and that knowledge should be enough. Its not  though because I feel like their relationship will continue along the same path and that he will eventually sleep with her and our marriage will end in divorce. If I am going to have to go through the pain of it, I&#039;d rather do it now while I am already reeling from the things he has revealed to me in the last week. I just don&#039;t know what to do. I&#039;ve told him that I feel like if I ask him to give her up, that he will choose her over me, and he doesn&#039;t respond to that, which makes me feel like I am right. I&#039;m angry and frustrated and scared. Its affecting my entire life. We have 3 kids together which makes it even more difficult. I know I have contributed to the problems in our marriage, but I never did anything like this. I&#039;m physically sick from all of the emotions I have to keep inside, hide from the kids. I feel like he is still leaving and that I still don&#039;t mean anything to him. I am so lost. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am struggling with the fact that my husband is having an emotional affair with a co worker. We&#8217;ve been going through some really bad times and he asked for a divorce. A few days later he tells me he is in love with another woman yet asks me to stay. The very next day he tells this friend he loves her and the day after that tells me he&#8217;d rather be with her, just to again change his mind about 2 more days later after I talked about working things out. Its confusing to me too. My thing is is that he refuses to even consider ending their relationship. He flat out told me not to ask him to give that up because he wouldn&#8217;t. that he loves me and that knowledge should be enough. Its not  though because I feel like their relationship will continue along the same path and that he will eventually sleep with her and our marriage will end in divorce. If I am going to have to go through the pain of it, I&#8217;d rather do it now while I am already reeling from the things he has revealed to me in the last week. I just don&#8217;t know what to do. I&#8217;ve told him that I feel like if I ask him to give her up, that he will choose her over me, and he doesn&#8217;t respond to that, which makes me feel like I am right. I&#8217;m angry and frustrated and scared. Its affecting my entire life. We have 3 kids together which makes it even more difficult. I know I have contributed to the problems in our marriage, but I never did anything like this. I&#8217;m physically sick from all of the emotions I have to keep inside, hide from the kids. I feel like he is still leaving and that I still don&#8217;t mean anything to him. I am so lost. . .</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darlene,

I guess i&#039;ll hit this blog with ine more comment since you don&#039;t have a public response so far. Thank you so much for the perspective your comment brought to me and to any other man who has betrayed his wife and reads this. 

Your comment left me with the impression that there are two key questions that hound you and won&#039;t go away. They are, &quot;can I trust him? and &quot;is there more?&quot;

Since you are in counseling, I hope you have gone into those questions. If you haven&#039;t, there is tremendous depth and many layers as to why they are there. I recommend starting with a series of questions for yourself and for your husband along with your counselor. They stem from your comment that he is remorseful. You used the term, &quot;extremely.&quot; 

First, if you are believers, is he repentant, and not just remorseful?

What &quot;work&quot; has he done to help him understand why he thought this behavior was ok in the first place?

Has he hidden other parts of his life from you from what you can tell? What does he say about that? How does he say it?

Have you shared your complete relationship and sexual history prior to marriage to one another? Are both of you &quot;safe&quot; (non-judgmental) enough with one another to do so?

Is this his first marriage?

Have both of you explored your family of origin issues and woundings with this counselor? Are either or both of you seeing a counselor individually?

Have you explored your own hurts that may affect how you relate to your husband...meaning was there an event or series of events that make it hard for you to trust in general? Do you feel constrained by something apart from this, or do you feel &quot;free?&quot;

Is your husband in community with other men? Does he have friends? I don&#039;t mean a group of buddies he plays golf with and talks football. I don&#039;t even mean a bible study where men are present. 

My comments and encouragements are these: your husband needs to be in community with men if he isn&#039;t already...he can&#039;t sustain emotional fidelity to you on his own long term without it...he needs to share his stuff in strictest confidence, and give men close to him permission to get in his face...this is extremely difficult for most men, he needs your encouragement... From your description of the interaction between your husband and this woman, it appears the frequency and intensity did not increase over time. This is an extremely good sign if it is true despite the duration of this relationship...I mean, the absence of the growth of an emotional bond is extremely good! I don&#039;t blame you for doubting since he said that he kept it from you claiming that he didn&#039;t think you would understand a new friendship. I think that is crap. He may not realize it though. There may be more to it, and there may not. There is still deception from him on some level. He needs to get at why he would do that. If he has a spirit of fear about him, there is a reason which must be explored. If he was simply stupid, then both of you need to recognize that, and you can work toward forgiveness. If the admission took place recently, you need time to process it regardless. He needs to give you room to do so, and you need wisdom speaking into you through it. 

As far as his character, it is obvious that he must examine and reset his boundaries. He needs to do so in the context I mentioned above. There are good books on the subject. No man and no woman is going to be perfect and whole, and no man&#039;s and no woman&#039;s character is whole and true. There are always issues to work on. I believe character can be measured on whether those issues are being addressed. A person must know to address them, and sometimes a realization or epiphany must occur. I hope that in the presence of his repentance that you are able to work toward forgiveness. This is not to say that forgiveness is conditional on repentance. Eventually, you need to forgive for your own sake. You do not have to put up with infidelity of any kind. On the same token, he will be guarded and may isolate of he feels judgment. It&#039;s a fine line. His repentance and your forgiveness can be a door through which your marriage heals in so many deep ways that it is impossible to describe. 

I hope that you are in community with women yourself. This is vitally important. 

Finally, I pray that both of you look toward the real Jesus and not some interpretation of Him that is out there. There is an expulsive power of that affection. Through Him, your marriage will flourish despite the flaws. 

God Bless both of you! I admire your courage. 

Jay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darlene,</p>
<p>I guess i&#8217;ll hit this blog with ine more comment since you don&#8217;t have a public response so far. Thank you so much for the perspective your comment brought to me and to any other man who has betrayed his wife and reads this. </p>
<p>Your comment left me with the impression that there are two key questions that hound you and won&#8217;t go away. They are, &#8220;can I trust him? and &#8220;is there more?&#8221;</p>
<p>Since you are in counseling, I hope you have gone into those questions. If you haven&#8217;t, there is tremendous depth and many layers as to why they are there. I recommend starting with a series of questions for yourself and for your husband along with your counselor. They stem from your comment that he is remorseful. You used the term, &#8220;extremely.&#8221; </p>
<p>First, if you are believers, is he repentant, and not just remorseful?</p>
<p>What &#8220;work&#8221; has he done to help him understand why he thought this behavior was ok in the first place?</p>
<p>Has he hidden other parts of his life from you from what you can tell? What does he say about that? How does he say it?</p>
<p>Have you shared your complete relationship and sexual history prior to marriage to one another? Are both of you &#8220;safe&#8221; (non-judgmental) enough with one another to do so?</p>
<p>Is this his first marriage?</p>
<p>Have both of you explored your family of origin issues and woundings with this counselor? Are either or both of you seeing a counselor individually?</p>
<p>Have you explored your own hurts that may affect how you relate to your husband&#8230;meaning was there an event or series of events that make it hard for you to trust in general? Do you feel constrained by something apart from this, or do you feel &#8220;free?&#8221;</p>
<p>Is your husband in community with other men? Does he have friends? I don&#8217;t mean a group of buddies he plays golf with and talks football. I don&#8217;t even mean a bible study where men are present. </p>
<p>My comments and encouragements are these: your husband needs to be in community with men if he isn&#8217;t already&#8230;he can&#8217;t sustain emotional fidelity to you on his own long term without it&#8230;he needs to share his stuff in strictest confidence, and give men close to him permission to get in his face&#8230;this is extremely difficult for most men, he needs your encouragement&#8230; From your description of the interaction between your husband and this woman, it appears the frequency and intensity did not increase over time. This is an extremely good sign if it is true despite the duration of this relationship&#8230;I mean, the absence of the growth of an emotional bond is extremely good! I don&#8217;t blame you for doubting since he said that he kept it from you claiming that he didn&#8217;t think you would understand a new friendship. I think that is crap. He may not realize it though. There may be more to it, and there may not. There is still deception from him on some level. He needs to get at why he would do that. If he has a spirit of fear about him, there is a reason which must be explored. If he was simply stupid, then both of you need to recognize that, and you can work toward forgiveness. If the admission took place recently, you need time to process it regardless. He needs to give you room to do so, and you need wisdom speaking into you through it. </p>
<p>As far as his character, it is obvious that he must examine and reset his boundaries. He needs to do so in the context I mentioned above. There are good books on the subject. No man and no woman is going to be perfect and whole, and no man&#8217;s and no woman&#8217;s character is whole and true. There are always issues to work on. I believe character can be measured on whether those issues are being addressed. A person must know to address them, and sometimes a realization or epiphany must occur. I hope that in the presence of his repentance that you are able to work toward forgiveness. This is not to say that forgiveness is conditional on repentance. Eventually, you need to forgive for your own sake. You do not have to put up with infidelity of any kind. On the same token, he will be guarded and may isolate of he feels judgment. It&#8217;s a fine line. His repentance and your forgiveness can be a door through which your marriage heals in so many deep ways that it is impossible to describe. </p>
<p>I hope that you are in community with women yourself. This is vitally important. </p>
<p>Finally, I pray that both of you look toward the real Jesus and not some interpretation of Him that is out there. There is an expulsive power of that affection. Through Him, your marriage will flourish despite the flaws. </p>
<p>God Bless both of you! I admire your courage. </p>
<p>Jay</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 11:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was surfing the web and found this site interesting.....I just found out my husband of 11 years has had a secret friendship with a woman 5 years his senior. I never knew this woman existed. He met her on a work issue. She had common interests, thought he was attractive and that fed his ego and he continued to reach out to her on a weekly basis. Phone records show he averaged calling her weekly for 10-20 minutes. She rarely, if ever, called him unless it was a work related issue... Maybe a few times in 6 years. I didn&#039;t know what an emotional affair was until I researched it. I qualify this as one, he claims he never meant to hurt me, that it was calls about &quot;current events&quot;, how her week went and that it was easy conversation. He didn&#039;t think I would understand a newly formed friendship after we were married. He put it in a safe place and never thought it would hurt me or effect us. He now has extreme remorse for his betrayal. We go to therapy 2 times a week. He called her one last time in my presence to say the relationship was &quot;inappropriate&quot; and he would not be calling anymore and asked her not to reach out to him. I did speak to her 2 times after I found out, and she said she looked at him as a great friend and listener and she was in a wonderful marriage. He saw her maybe 4 times, supposedly with work related issues....never went to lunch, drinks or anything social.. I just am having a hard time accepting the lies, deceit, hurt! I thought we were happily married. I don&#039;t even know if I can trust he his telling me the whole story, is there more? I truly loved this man with my whole heart! He is an incredible dad, rushes home to be with his family every day so this really took me by surprise and I have fallen hard. I don&#039;t really know if I can get past this and trust him again or forgive the betrayal. 6 years of lies is a really long time! What does this say about my husbands character?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was surfing the web and found this site interesting&#8230;..I just found out my husband of 11 years has had a secret friendship with a woman 5 years his senior. I never knew this woman existed. He met her on a work issue. She had common interests, thought he was attractive and that fed his ego and he continued to reach out to her on a weekly basis. Phone records show he averaged calling her weekly for 10-20 minutes. She rarely, if ever, called him unless it was a work related issue&#8230; Maybe a few times in 6 years. I didn&#8217;t know what an emotional affair was until I researched it. I qualify this as one, he claims he never meant to hurt me, that it was calls about &#8220;current events&#8221;, how her week went and that it was easy conversation. He didn&#8217;t think I would understand a newly formed friendship after we were married. He put it in a safe place and never thought it would hurt me or effect us. He now has extreme remorse for his betrayal. We go to therapy 2 times a week. He called her one last time in my presence to say the relationship was &#8220;inappropriate&#8221; and he would not be calling anymore and asked her not to reach out to him. I did speak to her 2 times after I found out, and she said she looked at him as a great friend and listener and she was in a wonderful marriage. He saw her maybe 4 times, supposedly with work related issues&#8230;.never went to lunch, drinks or anything social.. I just am having a hard time accepting the lies, deceit, hurt! I thought we were happily married. I don&#8217;t even know if I can trust he his telling me the whole story, is there more? I truly loved this man with my whole heart! He is an incredible dad, rushes home to be with his family every day so this really took me by surprise and I have fallen hard. I don&#8217;t really know if I can get past this and trust him again or forgive the betrayal. 6 years of lies is a really long time! What does this say about my husbands character?</p>
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		<title>By: Juliet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juliet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 21:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jay &amp; Jill - appreciated.</description>
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